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Quick! Timeline???
May 27th, 2010 at 4:48pm
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When was Straker in Vietnam? I need a span of years to figure something out. Helpness!!!
  
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Reply #1 - May 27th, 2010 at 6:44pm
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I got this from the Shado Library1

Captured by Viet Cong in late 1966. (History shows that South Viet Nam would have been the only place he could have been captured and escaped within the appropriate time frame. No American successfully escaped from the north or from Cambodia.)

Was injured and rescued (escaped)late 1967 by a Marine patrol. (Marine and army patrols located and rescued many American prisoners in the South.)



Is it canon that he was in Vietnam and was a POW? In which episode?


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Reply #2 - May 27th, 2010 at 7:11pm
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I suspect it was not canon, but fanon, cause I looked on wikipedia and couldn't find a mention of it. I think the shoulder wound was canon and about the only way to have received it in combat at his age was to have done a tour of duty in Vietnam. Hmm, now I have to switch the ages ... that's ok. works out a little better for some other things in this timeline ... LOL.
  
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Reply #3 - May 27th, 2010 at 7:20pm
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I don't remember any mention of a shoulder wound in the series, so I think that's fanon as well.  Unless you have the quote handy to show me otherwise.  Wink  A lot of his back story was made up long after the series ended, and I agree with Marc Martin that in that instance, it can't be called canon.
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Reply #4 - May 27th, 2010 at 8:58pm
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In the series, there was little to nothing on Straker's back story. All we really know was that he was a full USAF colonel at the time of SHADO's founding - which is assumed to be 1970. Considering how youthful Straker appears to be in 1980 - late thirties to early forties - he was damned young for a full colonel in 1970.

The idea of the shoulder wound came from observing an episode where Bishop was supposed to be physical and he seemed to be favoring his left arm.

The claustrophobia fits in well with the idea  of Straker having been a POW. An astronaut with claustrophobia seems to be a bad idea.

Given the requirements to make colonel by 1970, Straker had to have been born prior to 1938. Serving in Nam and being a POW would have put him at the top of the promotion list for his next promotion - possibly even an early promotion, thus he could be a very young full colonel in 1970.

Other than that time requirement, everything else is pretty much open on Straker's back story. (Anyone buy the idea that Straker is actually an Immortal and so is a very young looking 50+ in 1970?)
  

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Reply #5 - May 27th, 2010 at 10:25pm
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an Immortal? <innocent look, studies the ceiling, the wall, anything but the questioner> As in Highlander, not this time. But the Highlanders aren't the only immies in the world, either. (Straker is a very old, very sly, vampire ... no?) LOL.
  
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Reply #6 - May 27th, 2010 at 10:30pm
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SHADO Librarian wrote on May 27th, 2010 at 8:58pm:
In the series, there was little to nothing on Straker's back story. All we really know was that he was a full USAF colonel at the time of SHADO's founding - which is assumed to be 1970. Considering how youthful Straker appears to be in 1980 - late thirties to early forties - he was damned young for a full colonel in 1970.

The idea of the shoulder wound came from observing an episode where Bishop was supposed to be physical and he seemed to be favoring his left arm.

The claustrophobia fits in well with the idea  of Straker having been a POW. An astronaut with claustrophobia seems to be a bad idea.

Given the requirements to make colonel by 1970, Straker had to have been born prior to 1938. Serving in Nam and being a POW would have put him at the top of the promotion list for his next promotion - possibly even an early promotion, thus he could be a very young full colonel in 1970.

Other than that time requirement, everything else is pretty much open on Straker's back story. (Anyone buy the idea that Straker is actually an Immortal and so is a very young looking 50+ in 1970?)


Was he really a full Colonel in 1970???? Shoot, I had him pegged at 41 in 1980, some long winded discussion on one of the lists that said he had to be that to be a colonel, time in grade, etc and that puts his birth year at 1939. (Of course, I seldom keep SHADO in the original yearage anyway, LOL.) Well, considering what I've done already, ignoring the logistics of his age isn't a problem. Getting to his Col. in 1970 could be explained by field promotions and it is very romantic to presume that he survived being a POW in Vietnam. A career officer would have been in Vietnam, even with ties to intelligence. (We kept sending Military Intelligence in to get info, even if we didn't pay much attention to it ... le sigh).

So, my background still works. and fanon is frequently as wonderful as ca on so I'm not gonna worrit about it <g>.

thank you for all the input. I really appreciate it.

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Re: Quick! Timeline???
Reply #7 - May 28th, 2010 at 12:02am
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Straker's uniform in the first episode when the Rolls was attacked was that of a full colonel. The uniform also showed Missileman and pilot's wings - an odd combination or so I'm told. Those badges meant he was a pilot AND proficient in shooting off things that go up and then land bombs on peoples heads.

(Of course, the more logical reason is that the costume department had no clue and just slapped what they had on to the costume because it looked important.)
  

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Reply #8 - May 28th, 2010 at 12:25am
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Deb, I like the back story that you have up for Ed! I use it as a basis for my stories as I'm writting in the original time period.

I did my own for Ginny as I pictured her a few years older than Paul. I'm working on one for Gay Ellis.
  

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Reply #9 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 3:58pm
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Interesting ideas - I'd imagined that the claustrophobia came about as a result of falling into a well as a child
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 4:18pm
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falling in a well works. I believe Amelia buried him in a cave in while he was a POW in Vietnam. Doubly traumatic that way. I don't think the show ever explained it, they just saddled him with the condition.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 4:39pm
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I ws really mean to him and had him captured by Iraqis and tortured ( not for long Denise!) but my UFO universe is set 'now'  Which will still make it the wrong date for the film!
Sorry... I simply can't write about the 1980s!
  

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Reply #12 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 6:41pm
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You should worry; I'm writing in 1970!
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 6:46pm
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1970... let me see... ah yes. I remember...vaguely!

17. what a good age!  Wink

That's probably why I can only remember it vaguely! Cheesy

That's why I'm writing in the 'now' !
  

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Reply #14 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 6:55pm
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17? Ha!


I was but six!
  
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